On the other hand

1. Co-Enrollment. In California it’s been around for about 20 years maybe? When CA decided to stop letting kids who had enough credits graduate early, we did an offshoot into the community colleges.

2. Back up a step, please. Coming from an Asian “the only three universities worth attending are Stanford, Harvard or Yale, or possibly MIT if you are going to major in Physics or Math” family, it took a long time for me to realize that some kids are more gifted in working with their hands than strict academia. My brother for example, can naturally fix or repair anything that is broken. He would have been far better off going a Vo-Tech route if that had been allowed in our family, that being “guided” into a traditional scholar route.

3. Income (or lack of it) limits opportunities, that’s just a fact. But what is far MORE influencing, is the value of active parenting in the home, particularly parents who put a high value on education. When I lived in Hong Kong, my (then) only went to school at age 2–that’s when school starts in Asia. She spoke no Chinese, I was functionally illiterate (in Chinese) but we both worked to make it a success.

I have worked with plenty of non-english speaking parents (english ones too) who do not see the value in education, whose comfort zone is focused on the here and now. While I sympathized with their situation, you have to be willing to make the sacrifices today to have a better tomorrow.

You know, when I was in high school

I never knew about dual enrollment. I didn’t find out about such a thing until I was taking courses at a community college in my 40’s, and one of my classmates was a high school student doing dual enrollment. Is this a relatively new thing, or was there just a lack of information in the late 70’s?
Heck, I didn’t even know about *community* college when I graduated from high school. Even though my high school is highly rated, there was no education guidance that I can remember.

I live in Maryland and we are ranked in first place

Our drop out rates are fairly good and students here are expected to write essay exams by 2nd grade. What has happened is that our special education numbers are higher than average. Personally, I do not think that the answer is asking students to do developmentally inappropriate tasks, but to focus more on quality at the middle and high levels. Instead of pushing students to graduate when they can barely read, the options would be to continue to educate them and as long as they attend classes and do their best, they can get a Hugh school certificate of completion. This is an option for special education students, but I think that it should be an option for all. There are some jobs where persistence and dependability are more important than school smarts. This would tell these employers that these applicants have that important character trait.

Or, the other option that we provide is to continue taking classes until age 21. My school district offers this. Or, we have some students that complete courses through home study or self-paced online learning. Just as long as standards are high then I would rather see it done this way. Offer options to help students meet the standards, but do not lower them.

My dad, years ago, said:

the high school education he received in Mississippi County high school (graduated 1959) was about the equivalent to a jr. high education now. His parents were poor share croppers, with 4 kids (3 girls, 1 boy). They heated their house with a wood stove. My dad had to go out and chop the wood for the stove. If my dad wanted anything in life he had to scrape the money together to get it.

He served in the Air Force for 2 years. After that he has pretty much been self-employed all of his life. It was very difficult in the early years, even till I got out of high school in 1978. However, my dad has worked, pounded the concrete floors in whatever business he had at the time, scrimped and saved. Now he has retired though he still owns and manages several commercial properties. His net worth is probably several million by now. He pays cash for everything.

Oh, and my mom’s family were farmers as well and she went to the same high school my dad did.

My dad, frugal as he is, went to buy PJ’s at Penney’s. He found out that he could get 20% off by opening a credit card. (His visa is paid off monthly before the due date.) His plan was to open the card, make a purchase, then close the account. Anyway, the clerk attempted to open an account and it would not go through …. my dad, though not as rich as VLs, has the same problem with credit reports! His house is paid off, all commercial properties are paid off, he has NO debt and hasn’t for decades. He could not get a stupid Penney’s card but could buy out all the merchandise in the local store if he wanted to. Go figure. Oh, he still bought the PJ’s.

My dad was not successful because of a stellar education. He was not successful due to influential mentors or big wig financing by a big bank or “silent partner”. It was choices he made … one small choice/decision/baby step at a time. It was also due to prayer to God asking for wisdom.

I hope to have 1/2 the wisdom my dad has now by the time I pass on.

I’m sorry, but poverty is no excuse for not possessing language skills

I come from literally dirt floor, path to the bath roots—the first home I remember living in was 2 rooms, and I don’t mean bedrooms I mean two rooms and neither was a bathroom that was connected to the pigsty up the hill from the house.
My father and mother were high drop outs, her 8th grade him 10th. Dad spent part of his formative years living in a one room log cabin with a dirt floor. Besides being in the military in WWII he held only one job his entire life, with the same company for 37 years as a TEMPORARY employee. Yet later in life both Mom and Dad got their GED’s in the same month my much younger brother got his high school diploma. They all three went on to get further education. I finished a three year college course in 18 months. I’ll let you decide my language skills.
While my father was an only child my mother was the 9th of 10. Only her and her brother Kenneth ever made anything to speak of in their lives. And it was NOT handed to them. They both worked hard and asked for no hand outs from anyone. They both also found a way to get an education, neither had scholarships.
Low income is not what hurts students, it’s attitude and life choices. A student CHOSES the classes they take in school. They also choose whether or not to study, or to even attend classes for that matter. Don’t blame low income for the lack of education. My children were raised life is a series of choices and it is the CHOICES you make that will decide how your life turns out.
My children also grew up with a rainbow of friends from every race and economic strata. I could tell you at a young age which kids would get ahead in life simply by the choices they made as youths. One young man was supposedly destined for poverty the rest of his life due to his color and his social status. Oh and he was declared to be “a bit slow.” Teachers passed him on from grade to grade just to be rid of him. He finally as a high school student admitted to my dd that he couldn’t read above a first grade level. She taught him how to read that summer. He wasn’t slow, he simply hadn’t tried to read and learn until he was in high school and decided he wanted more out of life. He chose to study those last three years.
He grew confidence, and graduated far from the bottom of their class. He went on to get further education and now provides for his own family in a middle class neighborhood working a good job. He is there because he made the choice to ask my dd to teach him to read. He choose to not be a statistic. Something any person can do at any point in their life.
Just like all of us here have made the choice to be debt free. Life is a series of choices…

The trend is going back to go tech and tracking students

But only in states that opted out of common core. The college track is so much harder than 20 years ago. The problem is that low income and race will be part of tracking. Language skills are critical and studies prove that on AVERAGE low income and esl students enter school with much less language skills. Thus they start off behind and may never catch up. Thus those kids get put in non college bound classes. Texas is not in common core and we are trying hard to figure it out.

I guess when I killed the “snake” BOA I broke the website for the account

I have been trying every day since I made the final payment to get a screen shot of it showing the account zeroed after the payment posted. (I do have one of the payment confirmation for my payday loan). No such luck it keeps saying that viewing the account is temporarily unavailable—for three days now. Yet I can log in and view my still receiving payments account with no problem.

Oh well, I guess they are like Lowe’s once you pay them off you can forget about ever viewing anything online with them again. Man, spoil all my fun, I wanted that screen shot.

Anyway, if you are paying off a BOA that if you have previously closed the account, like I had, know that chances are you will not get the satisfaction of seeing on screen the zero balance. So gather all your proof the day you pay it off before you log out, because you may never be able to log back in.